I like to remain private online for obvious reasons

Too much noise. Not worth joining. Questionable trading practices 2 stars because I met a few good people in there. That's the only value I took from this room. I met some guys, we all left and started our own room, and we likely wouldn't have met if not for the Pit. So there's that. Small groups are the best. With large groups like this, there's too many cooks in the kitchen. 1100+ members with hundreds on at any one time. Too much noise. Too much garbage going on. Some people draw fibs, others just read off the DOM, others are doing zigzag charts. It's all too much. No one forecasts moves. Tons of hindsight traders. I've been in and out of this room for years and never seen one person post any sort of tax or broker document to prove they know what they're doing, but everyone likes to post Apex P/L screenshots on a good day. Where are the long term, consistent traders at? (that's a rhetorical question: they all leave and go solo or join small-group rooms). The owner puts his balls on the line and trades live. I respect him for that, but I get the feeling he's not profitable. Too many losing days (sometimes big losing days) and he doesn't make up for it with large winning days. I struggle to see how he is even at breakeven on his account. He'll show P/L on his chart, but after several losing days he takes it off. I'm not sure what that means. People should know he's down, but I doubt most pay attention. Trading seems to attract two types of people: 1) the clueless, and 2) the fantastic, which end up leaving for greener pastures. Most people here are clueless, and I'm damn near positive not a single person has ever called him out on his continuous losing days. They all believe he's a profitable trader, so that's all that matters I guess. No fact checking. I think he makes money from his signup fees to courses and discord. He doesn't seem to make much money from this so I have to ask myself why he even does it. If he's not making money from trading, not making much money from these courses/sign-up fees, then why do it? Maybe this is a hobby for him? Maybe he's still struggling, trying to make it as a trader and keeps at it? That's respectable if that's true. What isn't respectable is if he's touting knowledge and trading skill that he doesn't have, whilst charging for it. I can't prove any of this, and I doubt he will either. Overall I'd suggest staying away. The signup fee i slow enough to try it out and take a peek, but anyone serious about trading knows you have to go solo or with only a few people. Too much noise and distraction will decimate your account. I am here to make money, not socialize. Most people in the group seem to be interested in the latter, which is probably why almost none in that room are profitable. Good luck Bish. I don't know what your angle is but I hope you find that you're looking for.